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Post by edward on Jun 4, 2015 7:16:43 GMT
If it's true that the earth is flat and the shape flat earth believers say, then navigation should be off on the southern oceans, as the distance would be much greater. Explain that!
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Post by Richard on Jun 4, 2015 7:28:39 GMT
"It's easy to fly like an eagle when you live among the turkeys." You are right and you are observant. Natigators are off on their travels when crossing east to west or west to east. Most people wouldn't even think of this. So, here are some old reports of explorers who have sailed the southern seas.
“During Captain James Clark Ross’s voyages around the Antarctic circumference, he often wrote in his journal perplexed at how they routinely found themselves out of accordance with their charts, stating that they found themselves an average of 12-16 miles outside their reckoning every day, some days as much as 29 miles. Lieutenant Charles Wilkes commanded a United States Navy exploration expedition to the Antarctic from August 18th, 1838 to June 10th, 1842, almost four years spent “exploring and surveying the Southern ocean.” In his journals Lieutenant Wilkes also mentioned being consistently east of his reckoning, sometimes over 20 miles in less than 18 hours.
“The commanders of these various expeditions were, of course, with their education and belief in the earth's rotundity, unable to conceive of any other cause for the differences between log and chronometer results than the existence of currents. But one simple fact is entirely fatal to such an explanation, viz., that when the route taken is east or west the same results are experienced. The water of the southern region cannot be running in two opposite directions at the same time; and hence, although various local and variable currents have been noticed, they cannot be shown to be the cause of the discrepancies so generally observed in high southern latitudes between time and log results. The conclusion is one of necessity, forced upon us by the sum of the evidence collected that the degrees of longitude in any given southern latitude are larger than the degrees in any latitude nearer to the northern center; thus proving the already more than sufficiently demonstrated fact that the earth is a plane, having a northern center, in relation to which degrees of latitude are concentric, and from which degrees of longitude are diverging lines, continually increasing in their distance from each other as they are prolonged towards the great glacial southern circumference.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe!”[/font]
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Post by Clark on Jun 4, 2015 7:34:58 GMT
Another thing to keep in mind is, that there was no reason for them to lie. This was back in the early 19th Century. And for anyone to admit that they were off their course doesn't make it look good for them. Today, this information is covered up. And as for the sailing this is usually done by going north first, then going to your final destination. Or, starting in a northern port and going to your destination.
Also, check out some of the free old flat earth newsletters on this site.
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Post by Richard on Jun 10, 2015 18:01:29 GMT
"It's easy to fly like an eagle when you live among the turkeys." Here is another thought, the distance is much greater going from the souther end of, say, South America to South Africa. Being that the shape of the earth is circular, the distance would be greater the closer you are to the Antarctica – as compared to a globe. The distance would be so great that many planes could not make it.
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