Post by Clark on Jul 16, 2015 9:30:43 GMT
Say you were talking to someone about the flat earth, try using a basket ball and a jar of water for your demonstration. Your conversation may go something like this:
Flat earther = FE
Guest = G
FE: Let me ask you something about gravity. Is gravity the same all over the earth?
G: Yes, we are told this by scientists. You can go any place on the earth and the gravity is the same.
FE: Good, now can you give me an example.
G: I guess that by jumping up in the air. The height you just in England would be the same as in Australia.
FE: Good, and I agree. Now I have a basket ball here and a jar of water. Let the ball represent the earth and the jar of water the ocean. Now, if I put this jar of water on the top, it just sits there (provided the level ground is big enough). Now, I hold the jar of water on the side of the ball – say, where the equator would be. Now, I have the jar of water near the Antartic. Where do I have to use the least force to hold the water?
G: On the top, of course.
FE: OK, now where do I have to use the most force to hold the water?
G: On the bottom. So, what is your point?
FE: The point is, that you need force to hold water on anything that is not level. You have to use it on the equator and you would have to use the most force at the South Pole.
G: Well, gravity does all that – everyone knows that.
FE: Is gravity constant and equal on earth?
G: I guess it is; we are told that the atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. If gravity was greater, we would feel it; gravity is same all around.
FE: Percisely. Aside that you got atmospheric pressure mixed up with gravity, you would need more force to hold people and water south of the equarter than at the North Pole.
(Then he goes into a talk here to save time.) Well, if its gravity that holds water and everything else on the earth, it can't be constant and equal. IF GRAVITY does the holding, a lot more force would be needed south of the equarter. Then, even that would vary within a short space. Example, if you were in Equador on the beach, it would take less force if the water is only 1 foot deep; more force if the water was 2 feet deep; it would take a huge amount of force if the water was 500 feet deep, and so on and so forth. But, according to those who believes in the globe model, you would need all this varing amount of foce to hold the water and, at the same time, keeping it perfectly level as the water beneith it as the water gets deeper. YET, people on the surface does not feel this additional pressure, or should I say, a huge amount of pressure that is required to hold this water. In fact, the most delicate objects, such as a flower can withstand this pressure without harm; a baby can with stand this pressure as can a 200 pound weight lifter. But we are told that it's gravity that is holding everyting in place, and we also know from basic physics that it takes more pressure or force to hold something on the side of an object – not just water but anything.
You said that gravity is the same all over the earth, right?
G: Yes. So, what is holding everything in place?
FE: The simple weight of an object.
G: But an object, water or whatever, would still fall off of something if it's on the side and especially on the bottom. So, it can't be weight, it has to be gravity – however that works.
FE: You are right that just a weight of an object can not old something to the side of an object. But now you have to start thinking outside of the box. By trying to figure this mystery out on a goble model it can not be done.
G: Do you mean that the earth is flat?
FE: That is the only way things can stay on the earth without falling off AND without people feeling more pressure; that is how water can stay on the earth.
G: Ummm, I have to think about that one.
FE: By the way, that is why I used a jar of water and I had to hold it to the side of the basketball. Even though I tried, I can not pour water on the ball and have it an inch high all the way around – it all falls off (saying it with a grin)!
(End by saying...) Here are some links you can check out. Perhaps watching a few good videos would be easier before you read the links to the text. (Then give him/her the links that you think is best.)
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Flat earther = FE
Guest = G
FE: Let me ask you something about gravity. Is gravity the same all over the earth?
G: Yes, we are told this by scientists. You can go any place on the earth and the gravity is the same.
FE: Good, now can you give me an example.
G: I guess that by jumping up in the air. The height you just in England would be the same as in Australia.
FE: Good, and I agree. Now I have a basket ball here and a jar of water. Let the ball represent the earth and the jar of water the ocean. Now, if I put this jar of water on the top, it just sits there (provided the level ground is big enough). Now, I hold the jar of water on the side of the ball – say, where the equator would be. Now, I have the jar of water near the Antartic. Where do I have to use the least force to hold the water?
G: On the top, of course.
FE: OK, now where do I have to use the most force to hold the water?
G: On the bottom. So, what is your point?
FE: The point is, that you need force to hold water on anything that is not level. You have to use it on the equator and you would have to use the most force at the South Pole.
G: Well, gravity does all that – everyone knows that.
FE: Is gravity constant and equal on earth?
G: I guess it is; we are told that the atmospheric pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. If gravity was greater, we would feel it; gravity is same all around.
FE: Percisely. Aside that you got atmospheric pressure mixed up with gravity, you would need more force to hold people and water south of the equarter than at the North Pole.
(Then he goes into a talk here to save time.) Well, if its gravity that holds water and everything else on the earth, it can't be constant and equal. IF GRAVITY does the holding, a lot more force would be needed south of the equarter. Then, even that would vary within a short space. Example, if you were in Equador on the beach, it would take less force if the water is only 1 foot deep; more force if the water was 2 feet deep; it would take a huge amount of force if the water was 500 feet deep, and so on and so forth. But, according to those who believes in the globe model, you would need all this varing amount of foce to hold the water and, at the same time, keeping it perfectly level as the water beneith it as the water gets deeper. YET, people on the surface does not feel this additional pressure, or should I say, a huge amount of pressure that is required to hold this water. In fact, the most delicate objects, such as a flower can withstand this pressure without harm; a baby can with stand this pressure as can a 200 pound weight lifter. But we are told that it's gravity that is holding everyting in place, and we also know from basic physics that it takes more pressure or force to hold something on the side of an object – not just water but anything.
You said that gravity is the same all over the earth, right?
G: Yes. So, what is holding everything in place?
FE: The simple weight of an object.
G: But an object, water or whatever, would still fall off of something if it's on the side and especially on the bottom. So, it can't be weight, it has to be gravity – however that works.
FE: You are right that just a weight of an object can not old something to the side of an object. But now you have to start thinking outside of the box. By trying to figure this mystery out on a goble model it can not be done.
G: Do you mean that the earth is flat?
FE: That is the only way things can stay on the earth without falling off AND without people feeling more pressure; that is how water can stay on the earth.
G: Ummm, I have to think about that one.
FE: By the way, that is why I used a jar of water and I had to hold it to the side of the basketball. Even though I tried, I can not pour water on the ball and have it an inch high all the way around – it all falls off (saying it with a grin)!
(End by saying...) Here are some links you can check out. Perhaps watching a few good videos would be easier before you read the links to the text. (Then give him/her the links that you think is best.)
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